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Kustom Tuck and Roll 2x12 replacement speakers..
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Thanks!!]]>Anodizer2012-03-26T19:05:24-00:00Re: Kustom Tuck and Roll 2x12 replacement speakers..
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pleat]]>pleat2012-03-26T21:02:20-00:00Re: Kustom Tuck and Roll 2x12 replacement speakers..
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Bart]]>Kustom_Bart2012-03-26T23:00:44-00:00Re: Kustom Tuck and Roll 2x12 replacement speakers..
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The cab has the original Jensens, they sound fine but not as good as some 2x12 cabs that have Vintage 30's or something similar that I have heard.. Not enough low end.. Not enough punch.. I have tried all 3 of these amps with other cabs(friends, stores, etc) that have V30's, G12t-75s, Green Backs.. They sound great.. Totally the sound I'm, looking for..
Would this Tuck and Roll cab sound good with something like a Vintage 30? Or maybe even just replacing one speaker...?
Again, I play heavier music that is Black Sabbath based..
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pleat]]>pleat2012-03-27T10:08:50-00:00Re: Kustom Tuck and Roll 2x12 replacement speakers..
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A vintage one with its stock Jensens(C12N model driver) if still in the cab should sound pretty good, but I have seen some with and with out doping on the surround and these do lack bass unless they have been played alot and at a good enough volume to break them in.
Jensen C12Ns do have a mid cut to them and more top end than any Celestion model driver.
The Eminence Governor model driver is better than the now Chiness made Vin 30 model, and alot cheaper and has more of the mid bark you are looking for along with big bass.
If your T&R cabinet does not have ports them you have one of cabs from the TR50 serise of amps that the NEW Kustom company put out in 2000 to 2001.
The Jensen drives fitted to the 2000 to 2001 cabs are of the Mod serise and are not rated for as high a SPL level as the C12N, or any Celestion which would acount for there lack of punch, no less bass responce.]]>stevem2012-03-27T10:45:40-00:00Re: Kustom Tuck and Roll 2x12 replacement speakers..
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I'm just looking for a better sound out of the cab.. My friend's Orange 2x12 sealed cab with v30's blows this TR cab away.. Just looking for a similar sound with good low-end and mids...
What about Weber? Are they any good?]]>Anodizer2012-03-27T16:47:34-00:00Re: Kustom Tuck and Roll 2x12 replacement speakers..
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Kustom_Bart2012-03-27T17:47:20-00:00Re: Kustom Tuck and Roll 2x12 replacement speakers..
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Sealed cabinets beam more and have more mids and a cut in lows.
The key to getting a driver to work really good in a ported cab is to load it with a driver that is looking for the added inaternal cab volume that having the ports tubes simulates, this is a factor out of many as to how a driver is speced call VAS, so it will be found in a drivers spec sheet.
If you compare two drivers, one with a freer cone, the one with the freer cone will put out more bass, as its moving more air with less wattage.
this lets you cut back on the bass output of the amp which helps the amp stay cleaner at a higher volume which our ear translates into more punch!
The only problem is with a driver like this the cone at some givin volume/wattage level will lose control and sound like mud!
Most new speakers need to be broken in to get the low end up to its intended level, and you can aid this by powering the speakers with a Variac, and Weber speakers has a calculator to help you figure out how many volts to pump into them.
It could just be that your Jensen drivers( if the are original) do not have enough play time on them to be broken in?]]>stevem2012-03-28T10:59:47-00:00Re: Kustom Tuck and Roll 2x12 replacement speakers..
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pleat]]>pleat2012-03-29T02:12:35-00:00Re: Kustom Tuck and Roll 2x12 replacement speakers..
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stevem2012-03-29T10:59:31-00:00Re: Kustom Tuck and Roll 2x12 replacement speakers..
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stevem2012-03-30T11:13:28-00:00Re: Kustom Tuck and Roll 2x12 replacement speakers..
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The cost you have have in the cab, and the cost to change out the speakers to get the sound your looking for. Does that put the cost higher than you could buy a cab that you've tried against the kustom cab? You might be further ahead cost wise to sell the kustom cab and buy a cab that you like the sound of. Of course you don't have the cool T&R look. I've had the same cabs with CTS speakers and they are great sounding, just a little darker in tone than my Jensen cab. The CTS cabs were sold as a bass guitar cab.
pleat]]>pleat2012-03-30T12:50:25-00:00Re: Kustom Tuck and Roll 2x12 replacement speakers..
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I play mostly things that sound similar to Black Sabbath(Fu Manchu, Orange Goblin, High on Fire, Sleep, Acid King,
Electric Wizard, etc.).. If you are familiar with these bands then you are familiar what kind of sound I'm looking for.. I've heard other 2x12 ported cabs that sound awesome to me.. Hopefully, I can do the same with this Kustom cab.. ]]>Anodizer2012-04-11T05:15:40-00:00Re: Kustom Tuck and Roll 2x12 replacement speakers..
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What I mean is the sounds/bands you mention all use a ton of preamp distortion, and at low volumes these sounds have no balls in a live situtation unless mic ed up!
In this light you maybe better off just using 1-12" so you can drive it harder.
You last choise I guess is to get a cab and speaker set up you like and have it tuck & rolled!]]>stevem2012-04-11T10:44:32-00:00Re: Kustom Tuck and Roll 2x12 replacement speakers..
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cassent51502012-04-19T22:49:46-00:00Re: Kustom Tuck and Roll 2x12 replacement speakers..
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What do you gents think I can sell those jensens for? They are in perfect condition.. They aren't vintage(made in Italia).. Looks like they aren't even broken in yet.. The outer edge of the speaker cone is quite stiff.. 8ohms each.. I see new ones for between 80 and 100 bucks.. ]]>Anodizer2012-04-20T04:42:01-00:00Re: Kustom Tuck and Roll 2x12 replacement speakers..
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At least you gents weren't purists as opposed to other
forums I went to..
They made it sound like I was committing some sort of sacrilege by changing out the speakers, running something other than a Vox or Fender head and not playing music more like Stevie Ray Vaughn.. ]]>Anodizer2012-04-20T05:36:30-00:00Re: Kustom Tuck and Roll 2x12 replacement speakers..
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Glad to hear you have your tone now, that ported Kustom 2-12 will just about kick the butt bass wise of the standard non-ported 4-12" cab!]]>stevem2012-04-20T10:12:14-00:00Re: Kustom Tuck and Roll 2x12 replacement speakers..
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Rock on!
~Omri KB~]]>Omri KB2014-07-25T08:02:04-00:00Re: Kustom Tuck and Roll 2x12 replacement speakers..
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The newer TRT heads are some 6 inches wider than his 2-12 cab so placing that head or even a K200 head on top makes for a strange Tee shaped looking stack!
The porting of the cabinet can also make the same speakers preform quite different than in a non ported cabinet so it's not just a. Apples top apples deal some times !
Just sayin!]]>stevem2014-07-25T10:56:02-00:00Re: Kustom Tuck and Roll 2x12 replacement speakers..
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