| Info on Kasino Model 802? [message #9641] |
Wed, 03 September 2008 09:56  |
Mikasino802
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Hey Guys:
I'm new to the board, so my apologies if I've posted this in the wrong forum.
I am the owner of a really nice, fully functioning Kasino Model 802. I came into owning it quite by accident. I bought the house, it was in the basement and they didn't feel like moving it. What the amp did not have, however, were any accesories, switches or manuals that it may have come with. I've gone so far as to have a friend of mine who works for Guitar World magazine contact Kustom for some info, but the company has changed hands so many times, nobody there is able to help.
In any event, I've replaced all 8 speakers (they'd dry-rotted) with some 10" Eminence pieces and the amp absolutely wails. I changed the "solder-in" fuse to a pop-in type and went to a grounded power cord. Clearly, functioning and not humming or getting electrocuted are more important to me than pure vintage restoration. Other than that, a good clean up was done and the tolex, screening, etc. are as it came from the factory. What I can't seem to get any information on, however, are any number of the inputs on the amp.
The front panel has a 1/4" jack labeled "FOOT SWITCH". I'm clueless what the input controls, if it functions as a standard effects loop or what switch (if any) may have come with this amp or what switch is available that might work with it. Does this interact with the Selector Switch?
The back panel has four, 1/4" jacks labeled "TO MODULE - INPUT". I have no idea whatsoever.
Finally, and also on the back panel are four connections that I can only describe as resembling high-voltage power outlets. Again, I'm clueless.
Any help, even reasonable guesses would be welcomed. As it stands, I'm happy to just play the thing as it is, but being able to take advantage of what appears to have built into it would be great. Also, if I can find this info in another part of the Forum, but I just missed it in my search, please feel free to steer me in the right direction.
Forever in search of more information about my Kasino Model 802. Feel free to contact me if you can help.
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| Re: Info on Kasino Model 802? [message #9643 is a reply to message #9641] |
Wed, 03 September 2008 12:18  |
chicagobill
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Welcome to the board!
Steve is right, if you look at the Kasino catalog in the literature section, you'll find the 802 listed. Eight ten inch speakers with 200 watts of power, list price of $595.00.
A foot switch will plug into the jack marked FOOT SWITCH and is usually used to turn on and off an effect, like reverb. It is just a small push button on/off switch built into a metal box so that you can step on it to turn on and off the effect.
The Module output jack on the back are so that you can send the pre-amp signal from your amp into powered speaker units. These would allow you to increase the power output and area coverage of the amp.
If the back has what look like AC outlets, they probably are just that. A lot of older amps have these as a convenience, so that you can plug in another amp or effect unit without the need for an extension cord. Seeing as there are 4 of these, I imagine that they could be designed for plugging in the 4 modules that hook up to the pre-amp outputs.
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| Re: Info on Kasino Model 802? [message #9644 is a reply to message #9643] |
Wed, 03 September 2008 14:03 |
Mikasino802
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Thanks for the replies and welcomes, guys.
| chicagobill wrote on Wed, 03 September 2008 12:18 |
Steve is right, if you look at the Kasino catalog in the literature section, you'll find the 802 listed. Eight ten inch speakers with 200 watts of power, list price of $595.00.
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The Amp is definitely an 802. I just wanted to make the point that it works with no issues at all. That's sometimes rare with these older amps.
| chicagobill wrote on Wed, 03 September 2008 12:18 |
A foot switch will plug into the jack marked FOOT SWITCH and is usually used to turn on and off an effect, like reverb. It is just a small push button on/off switch built into a metal box so that you can step on it to turn on and off the effect.
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I've got a number of vintage amps including some Univox and older Fenders, so I'm familiar with the Foot Switch function in general. I'm just curious if anyone would know what this one would control specifically, as this amp doesn't appear to be equipped with any reverb, tremolo, etc. In fact, the only "special function" it appears to have <i>at all</i> is the "Selector" switch, which really only seems to effect equalization, not "presence" or anything along those lines. Seems a bit strange that a provision would be made for just that basic.
| chicagobill wrote on Wed, 03 September 2008 12:18 |
The Module output jack on the back are so that you can send the pre-amp signal from your amp into powered speaker units. These would allow you to increase the power output and area coverage of the amp.
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THAT is a handy feature. It would be even more handy if this amp didn't weigh 6000 pounds and was a bit easier to drag to a gig.
| chicagobill wrote on Wed, 03 September 2008 12:18 |
If the back has what look like AC outlets, they probably are just that. A lot of older amps have these as a convenience, so that you can plug in another amp or effect unit without the need for an extension cord. Seeing as there are 4 of these, I imagine that they could be designed for plugging in the 4 modules that hook up to the pre-amp outputs.
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You know, I thought that, too. The only thing that keeps me from agreeing quite so fast is that these "outlets" only have receptors for two leads and they're "curved" like so --> ( ). Like I said, they almost look like a high-voltage lead, but given what I saw inside the head when I did the fuse/power cord change, I didn't see anything that looked like that.
I appreciate the input thus far. I'll try to get some pics posted, too. My cryptic descriptions aren't helping things I'm sure.
In the meantime, if anyone knows where I can find copies of any of the manuals or schematics for this beast, I'd appreciate the help. The advertisement reprints are pretty plentiful, but even they don't get much into the capabilities beyond watts and such.
Thanks again!
Forever in search of more information about my Kasino Model 802. Feel free to contact me if you can help.
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| Re: Info on Kasino Model 802? [message #9645 is a reply to message #9644] |
Wed, 03 September 2008 15:25 |
chicagobill
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| Mikasino802 wrote on Wed, 03 September 2008 13:03 |
I'm just curious if anyone would know what this one would control specifically, as this amp doesn't appear to be equipped with any reverb, tremolo, etc. In fact, the only "special function" it appears to have <i>at all</i> is the "Selector" switch, which really only seems to effect equalization, not "presence" or anything along those lines. Seems a bit strange that a provision would be made for just that basic.
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According to the catalog your amp has "Selectone", which is a control that shifts the range of the tone control network. On a Kustom amp, the foot switch turns on and off the shift.
| Mikasino802 wrote on Wed, 03 September 2008 13:03 |
...these "outlets" only have receptors for two leads and they're "curved" like so --> ( ). Like I said, they almost look like a high-voltage lead, but given what I saw inside the head when I did the fuse/power cord change, I didn't see anything that looked like that.
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When you had the head out, what did these sockets connect to? At one time, that style socket was often used for speaker connectors, but I doubt that the ones on your amp are for additional speakers.
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| Re: Info on Kasino Model 802? [message #9648 is a reply to message #9647] |
Thu, 04 September 2008 13:26 |
Mikasino802
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Steve;
Just so we're all on the same page; the Kasino 802 is not a PA head/Mixer. It's a guitar amp. Am I misunderstanding you?
I'll have some images posted by the weekend to clear all of this up.
Forever in search of more information about my Kasino Model 802. Feel free to contact me if you can help.
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| Re: Info on Kasino Model 802? [message #9649 is a reply to message #9645] |
Thu, 04 September 2008 13:34 |
Mikasino802
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Sorry about the double post, guys; hit the wrong button...| chicagobill wrote on Wed, 03 September 2008 15:25 |
When you had the head out, what did these sockets connect to? At one time, that style socket was often used for speaker connectors, but I doubt that the ones on your amp are for additional speakers.
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It has been a while since I had that apart, so I just don't remember; by the same token, I don't recall seeing any wiring inside the head heavy-duty enough to handle high-voltage or even standard power-out. I'm going to have to take another look inside. Given the size and weight of this thing and how hard it is to get it out from where I have it, even just enough to unplug it and remove the head from the cabinet, I'll take a whack at this weekend when I photograph it.
Believe me, guys, this amp is very much a Plug-It-In-Push-It-Back-Hook-It-Up-And-Play kind of thing. Why anyone would have originally purchased this instead of the split cabinets (2 4x10s) escapes me. I really don't blame the original home-owner for leaving this beast behind.
Forever in search of more information about my Kasino Model 802. Feel free to contact me if you can help.
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| Re: Info on Kasino Model 802? [message #9650 is a reply to message #9649] |
Thu, 04 September 2008 17:28 |
chicagobill
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If you look at the catalog, the bigger version of your amp has two side mounted cabinets that fold in on hinges to create a single mass equal to 2 amps sitting face to face. A real roadie nightmare!
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