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Cabinet & wheels question [message #7720]

Fri, 13 October 2006 15:53

kevineh
Messages: 21
Registered: August 2006
Location: Southern California

Junior Member

My new 3x15 has no wheels right now. I was wondering, would there be any sound difference to a cabinet sitting on the ground compared to a cabinet up on wheels, or is that a myth? Also, how sturdy is a 3x15 on those swirleys?

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Re: Cabinet & wheels question [message #7721 is a reply to message #7720]

Fri, 13 October 2006 17:08

BC
Messages: 583
Registered: March 2000
Location: Kentucky

Senior Member

Welcome to the board! I have several 3x15s...all are on the casters so I can not say anything about the sound difference. The 3x15 is my personal favorite of all the configurations....but they are not for everyone or every venue. Nothing says,"Look at me" like a 3x15 Kustom rig! I can tell you the cabinets are a little top heavy but there is no danger of turning over unless you are already on an unstable surface. For me they would be too hard to move without wheels. You can find replacement casters at Grangers for about 20 bucks for a set of four.

Tell us more about your Kustom....Color? speakers? head? BC Cool

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Re: Cabinet & wheels question [message #7725 is a reply to message #7720]

Sat, 14 October 2006 08:31

rodak
Messages: 515
Registered: October 2001
Location: Georgia

Senior Member

I've never tried it, but I've always heard that you get better bass response when the cabinet is sitting directly on the floor. I don't know if the inch or so of space added by the casters would make a big difference.

I guess if you wanted to test it without removing the casters, you could turn the cab upside down - just make sure to protect the Naugahyde, and get a friend to steady the cab so it doesn't fall over. It might also be interesting to lay it on its side, too.

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Re: Cabinet & wheels question [message #7734 is a reply to message #7720]

Mon, 16 October 2006 07:33

stevem
Messages: 4772
Registered: June 2004
Location: NY

Senior Member

Yes, for bass the cab couples better to the room with no wheels.

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Re: Cabinet & wheels question [message #7745 is a reply to message #7720]

Tue, 17 October 2006 04:42

kevineh
Messages: 21
Registered: August 2006
Location: Southern California

Junior Member

Thanks everybody for all the help on my recent posts, I really appreciate having such a great community. My dad has had a black 250 bass head with a 1 "15 speaker cabinet stashed away in our music room for 15 years. I've recently started playing bass (after playing guitar for 7 years) to fill a spot in a new band, and I dug it out of the room and was amazed of how cool this head was. Once I found this site, I realized that I needed to complete my setup and reunite my head with an original cabinet. Last month I found a black 3x15 cabinet in Venice beach with a 250-2 head, and I've been having tons of fun switching the heads around. Great times, and everybody is shocked when they see this gigantic setup. Its gonna be a landmark at shows, can't wait!

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Re: Cabinet & wheels question [message #7746 is a reply to message #7720]

Tue, 17 October 2006 06:43

stevem
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Registered: June 2004
Location: NY

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Hi, nice find!Do you know what speakers the cabinet is loaded with?
Does the jack plate on the cab say jensen or cts?

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Re: Cabinet & wheels question [message #7756 is a reply to message #7746]

Thu, 19 October 2006 03:19

kevineh
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Registered: August 2006
Location: Southern California

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I'm pretty sure the speakers arn't original, I don't remember seing any brand names on the back of the speakers, so the make is still a mystery. The jack plate says CTS, too bad, I bet the Jensen one's are pretty rare. She's a beaut though, and is much taken care of, everybody in the band looks after her safety : )

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Re: Cabinet & wheels question [message #7757 is a reply to message #7756]

Thu, 19 October 2006 08:55

BC
Messages: 583
Registered: March 2000
Location: Kentucky

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I am curious about the cabinet since it came with a 250 head. Is the grill cloth black all over or does it have silver squares in it? Also, is the cabinet the same depth at the top and bottom or is it slanted with the top being smaller. I know there were some 250 series 3x15s out there but you do not see very many of them! CTS speakers would be better than Jensens for bass....especially with the added power of the 250 head. BC Cool

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Re: Cabinet & wheels question [message #7779 is a reply to message #7720]

Mon, 23 October 2006 13:46

kevineh
Messages: 21
Registered: August 2006
Location: Southern California

Junior Member

Hey BC, yeah I don't think this 250 head originally came with this cab. The cabinet has black grill cloth with 2 silver port holes; it is a bit wider on the bottom than on the top. Since it is wider on the bottom, does that mean that its from the 60s? Also, the 250 that came with it is actually a 250-2 head, and has the tremolo/vibrato stuff. The padding on the head has a different texture to it, kinda weaker with a darker shinier black. Does anyone know why the padding is different? The bass head (250) that I already have has the same strong less greasy looking black as the cabinet, which works out great since I'm using it for bass.

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Re: Cabinet & wheels question [message #7781 is a reply to message #7779]

Mon, 23 October 2006 20:52

BC
Messages: 583
Registered: March 2000
Location: Kentucky

Senior Member

Your cabinet is definitely a 200 series cabinet. The 250 series 3x15s were the same depth top to bottom......and the slant was moved to the head. Late in the 200 series Kustom started using a shiney textured black material called "kool black" as well as the traditional black. Both black materials were used then and on the metal faced amps as well. Most people will never notice....and you sure can not tell it on stage! I used to be very careful to match my cabinets and heads....now I grab the heads and cabinets by their tone and do not concern myself so much with color.....it makes for some interesting combinations! The 3x15 should sound great with the 250. Congrats! BC Cool

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Re: Cabinet & wheels question [message #7783 is a reply to message #7720]

Mon, 23 October 2006 22:06

edforgothispassword
Messages: 202
Registered: July 2004

Senior Member

on wheels/no wheels...what I've found on all bass rigs..including my mackie subwoofer cabs...when you have a cab directly on the floor..you do get bigger bass.....but getting a cab up off the floor an inch..even on wood blocks..etc...can clean up the bass tones considerably...depending on the floor type..or raised stage..etc... there's advantages to both...but for me when I'm using kustoms...I just leave em on the casters..they look cool..move easy..and the closed back/port design is going to throw all the bass that cab is capable of anyway...I have however in years gone by....turned a rig to face the wall..or into the corner ...especially on a tight stage where I could not get out in front of the cab...this let me hear myself better and really filled up the room a lot more with less amp.
welcome to the board...and the greatest bunch of knuts in the world!

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Re: Cabinet & wheels question [message #7785 is a reply to message #7720]

Tue, 24 October 2006 07:07

stevem
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Registered: June 2004
Location: NY

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If you care to bring more stuff with you to a gig,A friend of mine made a particle board platform that was mostly cut out in the center, he layered and glued up enough 3/4 inch board to get his cabinet wheels 1/4 inch off the floor, he painted it black and sits his cab on it at the gig.

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Re: Cabinet & wheels question [message #7787 is a reply to message #7720]

Tue, 24 October 2006 11:39

edforgothispassword
Messages: 202
Registered: July 2004

Senior Member

yep...we , as well as several sound companies I work with, have some small dolly platforms that we use..sometimes its nice to have the cabs right on the floor/stage...other times you need to get them up to clean up the bass...

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Re: Cabinet & wheels question [message #7788 is a reply to message #7720]

Tue, 24 October 2006 12:24

John01
Messages: 6
Registered: May 2006
Location: Hershey, PA

Junior Member

How does Kustom do their 3x15's? Do they use three separate chambers within the cab. Are all three sealed or are some ported? Or is there one big ported chamber?

John

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Re: Cabinet & wheels question [message #7790 is a reply to message #7720]

Tue, 24 October 2006 12:40

stevem
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Registered: June 2004
Location: NY

Senior Member

The whole cabinet is open, the early cabs had no port holes, then they added port holes with no port tubes, then came the port tubes.
Only the early franky models would have no port holes.
It not clear, but it seams that when the cabs started showing up with the combination metal and plastic handles, so did the port holes behind the grill cloth.

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