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First post! Kasino PA cabs [message #11768]

Mon, 07 September 2009 14:20

loudmouse
Messages: 5
Registered: September 2009
Location: Portland Oregon

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Hi all, just found this forum after searching for Kustom/Kasino info online.

I picked up a pair of Kasino Thea model speakers, each has 2 15"s and a horn. They also have the built in 125w amplifier modules. Big beasts but they will make a welcome addition to my basement home theater.

Can anyone identify who made the speakers inside?
The horn says "SA 422" and the 15's have a remanufactured to original specs 5/25/76 sticker and part # 038-0055-00.
Any info or thoughts would be appreciated.
Thanks

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Re: First post! Kasino PA cabs [message #11775 is a reply to message #11768]

Mon, 07 September 2009 20:09

Optyk
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Registered: August 2006
Location: Texas

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If you're half as happy with your Kasino cabs as I am with my U200-P head, you'll love them.

Rod

There's only two kinds of music. . . . blues and zippity doo dah.

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Re: First post! Kasino PA cabs [message #11778 is a reply to message #11768]

Tue, 08 September 2009 06:10

stevem
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Registered: June 2004
Location: NY

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My band back then had those same powered cabinets with the 8 channel mixer and it was a welcome step up from the K200 with the two 4-12 columes we had been using for many years.
Those 15 inch drivers are of Eminence manufacture.

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Re: First post! Kasino PA cabs [message #11780 is a reply to message #11768]

Tue, 08 September 2009 18:25

loudmouse
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Registered: September 2009
Location: Portland Oregon

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Eminence drivers huh, good to know.
Hooked them up and boy those horn tweeters really throw the highs. There isn't as much thump as I expected from the 15s but maybe that's because they're not home stereo speakers and lack a crossover. I don't know if there was a crossover originally because the amp sections have been bypassed and the speakers are wired direct. Looks like whoever did it just added a binding post to the original wiring and disconnected the amps too. They also removed the A/C cords so I'll have to replace those to get the amps going.

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Re: First post! Kasino PA cabs [message #11782 is a reply to message #11768]

Wed, 09 September 2009 05:55

stevem
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Registered: June 2004
Location: NY

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There needs to be a crossover otherwise the drivers on those horns will be short lived if you are hitting them with signal below 1000HZ or so!!

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Re: First post! Kasino PA cabs [message #11783 is a reply to message #11780]

Wed, 09 September 2009 23:20

pleat
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Registered: June 2004
Location: Belding, Mi

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I'd look over the inside of the cabinets. There should be a 4Mf 50vdc capacitor in series with the horn as the simple crossover. If it's gone and the horn is wired directly to the speakers you can damage the driver if your trying to get more bass from the cabinets. Since the speakers if original are designed for high power ratings, you won't get a lot of low end without really hitting them with a lot of power.
Don

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Re: First post! Kasino PA cabs [message #11789 is a reply to message #11768]

Thu, 10 September 2009 20:18

loudmouse
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Registered: September 2009
Location: Portland Oregon

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I'll take the 100 screws out of the back and look again for the capacitor.

I'm not sure how the power rating thing works. Would they give more bass response with a 200w amp instead of a 50w amp AT THE SAME VOLUME LEVEL?

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Re: First post! Kasino PA cabs [message #19027 is a reply to message #11789]

Sun, 04 August 2013 16:28

noah300g
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Registered: August 2013

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Can't find anything on the net about the Kasino THEA and the KPN-200-0167-04 amplifiers.
Does anyone have any info regarding schematics or proper way to take them apart? I don't want to just start removing screws and have things fall apart.

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Re: First post! Kasino PA cabs [message #19028 is a reply to message #19027]

Sun, 04 August 2013 21:10

pleat
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Registered: June 2004
Location: Belding, Mi

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click on the literature tab on the left side of your screen, then click Kasino and click on Public Address photo, and then click on the Theatre page. The cab houses two 15" speakers and horn with the power amp mounted on the back panel. If you remove the power amp, there will be a speaker plug to unplug from the power module and the amp will easy to remove. You can also take the complete back panel off with the power amp, but you will still have to unplug the speaker plug from the amp. There shouldn't be any thing falling apart. The power module is PC5021 and is listed in the Technical tab on the left.
pleat

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Re: First post! Kasino PA cabs [message #19032 is a reply to message #19028]

Mon, 05 August 2013 03:09

Kustom_Bart
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Registered: October 2010
Location: Greenville, MichiGUN

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part # 038-0055-00 is a Kustom part number, if you get the part number from the outside on the back of the speaker frame I can tell you exactly what the speakers are for sure. It just can't start with 038.

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Re: First post! Kasino PA cabs [message #19035 is a reply to message #19027]

Mon, 05 August 2013 09:22

noah300g
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Registered: August 2013

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Thanks,
Took the whole back off and all looked well inside. One of the cabinets had a 'blown' horn driver, but I unscrewed it and then opened it up, found that the open circuit occurred out at the edge, so I was able to resolder and it now works fine.
Put it all back together and I think I'm good to go.
I did not find any Literature Tab to open up, but will keep looking for it. Seems like a pretty simple power amp.
Thanks,

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Re: First post! Kasino PA cabs [message #19036 is a reply to message #19035]

Mon, 05 August 2013 11:15

Kustom_Bart
Messages: 601
Registered: October 2010
Location: Greenville, MichiGUN

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Just go to http://www.vintagekustom.com/ and you will find the main page. You must have entered the forum through a link from a search. This way will put the info on the LH side of your page so you can use it all the time. There is a ton of great info there.

Bart

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