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kustom III pa [message #12780] Fri, 29 January 2010 21:06 Go to next message
pinebrookjohn is currently offline  pinebrookjohn
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hello guy/girls. i am having a problem with my pa it first 5 channels dont work but the 6th one does what could be the problem? i clean all the pots and it didnt help at all? thanks in advance
Re: kustom III pa [message #12783 is a reply to message #12780] Sat, 30 January 2010 11:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You might try working the molex connectors from the "bad" preamp boards...could be as simple as a poor connection and working the connectors might get you back in a good contact situation..I am not sure how the thing is wired internally but give it a shot...
Kraig
Re: kustom III pa [message #12786 is a reply to message #12780] Sat, 30 January 2010 18:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Did all 5 fail at the same time?
Re: kustom III pa [message #12788 is a reply to message #12780] Sat, 30 January 2010 19:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I got the pa given to me so i dont know. From ehat i understand tho yes they all failed at the same time
Re: kustom III pa [message #12791 is a reply to message #12780] Sun, 31 January 2010 11:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I would say that its time to bring it to a tech as my guess is that each channel is a seperate circuit module and they are all set up in parallel feeding the mixers driver stage.
This means that only three things are possible.
1) The moldex connector is not feeding power to these channels.
2) The moldex connector is not passing the input or output signal
3) All 5 channels have a dead IC chip and hence no gain,
Re: kustom III pa [message #12795 is a reply to message #12791] Sun, 31 January 2010 13:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Since you don't know the history of the PA, I'd agree that 90% of the problems will lay in the molex connectors that jump from channel to channel. Not sure how much you want to dive into fixing it yourself but, if the last channel is working, the plug that feeding it seems to be working, you might want to remove the first channel out of the chassis and swap itto the working channel, if that works, then I'd guess your problem is in the connector plugs and a good cleaning of the actual plugs should bring all the channels back to life. My guess is, if you swap all the non working channels into the channel slot that is working and they don't work in the channel 6 spot, then I would guess someone at some time took a line from a speaker output and plugged it into the input of the non working channels, frying the pre amp.
Keep us posted
pleat
Re: kustom III pa [message #12797 is a reply to message #12795] Sun, 31 January 2010 21:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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pleat wrote on Sun, 31 January 2010 13:22

Since you don't know the history of the PA, I'd agree that 90% of the problems will lay in the molex connectors that jump from channel to channel. Not sure how much you want to dive into fixing it yourself but, if the last channel is working, the plug that feeding it seems to be working, you might want to remove the first channel out of the chassis and swap itto the working channel, if that works, then I'd guess your problem is in the connector plugs and a good cleaning of the actual plugs should bring all the channels back to life. My guess is, if you swap all the non working channels into the channel slot that is working and they don't work in the channel 6 spot, then I would guess someone at some time took a line from a speaker output and plugged it into the input of the non working channels, frying the pre amp.
Keep us posted
pleat

thanks everyone for your input. ill try messing with the molex connectors next and go from there. just one question if the pre amp was fried wouldnt all 6 channels not be working?
Re: kustom III pa [message #12798 is a reply to message #12780] Mon, 01 February 2010 05:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
stevem is currently offline  stevem
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No, as each channel has within it multiple preamp/gain stages.
Only the driver/ output stage, effect/reverb stage and the power supply are common to all the channels
Re: kustom III pa [message #12825 is a reply to message #12780] Mon, 01 February 2010 19:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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thanks everyone i wont get to the pa this weekend as its up my brothers house thanks again everyone ps does anyone have a schematic for this pa.
Re: kustom III pa [message #12844 is a reply to message #12780] Tue, 02 February 2010 12:26 Go to previous message
stevem is currently offline  stevem
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Broadwaymusico.com has the schematic.
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