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2 x 15 speaker ID/suggestions [message #15022]

Wed, 05 January 2011 23:49

ramrod250
Messages: 32
Registered: January 2011
Location: Germantown, Wisconsin

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Related to my previous thread from earlier this week (Argh! ANOTHER newbie needs ... ) I opened the back of the Kustom CTS cab I got with a K200 head, and found this:

http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m621/ramrod250/DSCF0075.jpg

The top speaker has these numbers:

http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m621/ramrod250/DSCF0076.jpg

And there's what looks like an attempted repair:

http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m621/ramrod250/DSCF0077.jpg

The bottom speaker (square magnet) has these numbers:

http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m621/ramrod250/DSCF0078.jpg

Can these be identified? And should I replace either or both?

Suggestions welcome and much appreciated. I'd like to use this for lead/rhythm moreso than bass.

Jim Haught
Creedence + Kustom: a great combination.

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Re: 2 x 15 speaker ID/suggestions [message #15023 is a reply to message #15022]

Thu, 06 January 2011 01:56

Kustom_Bart
Messages: 601
Registered: October 2010
Location: Greenville, MichiGUN

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The bottom photo is a CTS speaker and the top one in the first picture looks like a Altec, but I need the other numbers for the rim to be able to tell you for sure.

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Re: 2 x 15 speaker ID/suggestions [message #15024 is a reply to message #15023]

Thu, 06 January 2011 05:56

braud357
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Registered: July 2010
Location: Louisiana

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That top speaker looks like a Jensen !

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Re: 2 x 15 speaker ID/suggestions [message #15025 is a reply to message #15024]

Thu, 06 January 2011 10:57

Kustom_Bart
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Registered: October 2010
Location: Greenville, MichiGUN

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You are correct Smile

I don't know what I was thinking..LOL! It was late and maybe my eyes were playing tricks on me...it does look like a Jensen not an Altec.

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Re: 2 x 15 speaker ID/suggestions [message #15027 is a reply to message #15022]

Thu, 06 January 2011 12:18

chicagobill
Messages: 2005
Registered: April 2003

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The CTS is probably original to the cabinet, the top speaker is a replacement.

I can't tell what brand the replacement is, but the magnet doesn't look like a Jensen to me. The wrinkle finish is like a higher end Jensen, but I can't tell what it is without seeing more.

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Re: 2 x 15 speaker ID/suggestions [message #15028 is a reply to message #15022]

Thu, 06 January 2011 12:22

ramrod250
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Registered: January 2011
Location: Germantown, Wisconsin

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I haven't remounted the speakers yet; will post a couple more photos tonight. I've read where Fogerty used 2 x 15 JBL D130s and thought maybe I should go that route to best duplicate that sound.

Jim Haught
Creedence + Kustom: a great combination.

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Re: 2 x 15 speaker ID/suggestions [message #15029 is a reply to message #15028]

Thu, 06 January 2011 20:34

ramrod250
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Registered: January 2011
Location: Germantown, Wisconsin

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OK, went back to the top speaker, but the only other numbers I could find were these, on the cone:

http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m621/ramrod250/DSCF0079.jpg

Jim Haught
Creedence + Kustom: a great combination.

[Updated on: Thu, 06 January 2011 20:34]

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Re: 2 x 15 speaker ID/suggestions [message #15030 is a reply to message #15022]

Fri, 07 January 2011 12:06

chicagobill
Messages: 2005
Registered: April 2003

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If you Google LMI 152, it comes up as a Jensen 15", 100 Watt Bass speaker.

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Re: 2 x 15 speaker ID/suggestions [message #15031 is a reply to message #15022]

Fri, 07 January 2011 15:16

cassent5150
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Registered: August 2009

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The top speaker is a Jensen LMI- 152 low frequency driver and the bottom "137" is CTS. If that helps. Steve C

Steve C

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Re: 2 x 15 speaker ID/suggestions [message #15032 is a reply to message #15031]

Fri, 07 January 2011 15:21

ramrod250
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Registered: January 2011
Location: Germantown, Wisconsin

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It does. Thanks to all. Sounds like a bass setup. Guess I'll need to sub in something else to get something more Fogerty-esque, or leave this set up for bass and get another black TNR cab set up for guitar.

Jim Haught
Creedence + Kustom: a great combination.

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Re: 2 x 15 speaker ID/suggestions [message #15033 is a reply to message #15032]

Fri, 07 January 2011 20:10

pleat
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Registered: June 2004
Location: Belding, Mi

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From the photo's it appears that your cabinet has the chrome plastic ports. The CTS speaker looks like it has seen better days. I would be concerned that it is missing some of the gasket material. I'd also check to see what impedance each speaker is. The silver framed CTS isn't original to that cabinet. If it is, there will be a kustom ink logo stamp on the frame.
If your driving the cabinet with a K200, the amp wants to see a total of 4 ohms. Going for the Fogerty sound, JBL's would be it. pleat.

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Re: 2 x 15 speaker ID/suggestions [message #15034 is a reply to message #15033]

Fri, 07 January 2011 21:05

ramrod250
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Registered: January 2011
Location: Germantown, Wisconsin

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Thanks, pleat. Yes, the ports are chrome plastic. And I don't doubt that the speakers have limited life/use (and some of the gasket material IS missing). But I figured that was likely when I got the head/cab, so I'm not too bummed about it. I got a good deal for both, and figured this would at least give me a cab that was black/charcoal TNR a la Creedence, and is structurally in pretty good shape. Looks like those JBLs are about $250 apiece, though Sad

Didn't see any Kustom logo on the frame of the CTS.

Thanks again.

Jim Haught
Creedence + Kustom: a great combination.

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Re: 2 x 15 speaker ID/suggestions [message #15036 is a reply to message #15034]

Sat, 08 January 2011 09:01

braud357
Messages: 154
Registered: July 2010
Location: Louisiana

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For replacement speakers you might consider Weber speakers. Their "California" series is advertised as a replacement for the JBL D-130F. They even have the aluminum voice coil covers and the cones look like the JBL's. I just looked, and the price is $235 each. Still fairly expensive, but if you find some D-130F's ( big word IF), and had to have them reconed you would have to spend mucho more. I have used Weber's before - they are all custom built and they do a wonderful job !

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Re: 2 x 15 speaker ID/suggestions [message #15037 is a reply to message #15022]

Sat, 08 January 2011 11:12

stevem
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Registered: June 2004
Location: NY

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That top Jensen driver has a very big alinco magnet and is worth good chunk of money if it still works.
The new Jensen\Sica company out of Italy does not even manufacture a new Alinco magnet bass driver like that !

Its 100 watt rating spec during the era that it was made would be peak watts, not RMS.

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