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Kustom speaker cables [message #17244]

Fri, 29 June 2012 13:07

RobbieNuke
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Registered: October 2006
Location: Baltimore

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What type of speaker cables originally came with Kustom roll n' pleated amps... if any? Or did you have to buy whatever the dealer had to sell? If Kustom supplied cables (none listed in catalogs), what type of cable (round or flat, like lamp cord) and what type of plugs (Switchcraft metal, plastic, molded right angle, etc) were used?

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Re: Kustom speaker cables [message #17245 is a reply to message #17244]

Fri, 29 June 2012 13:49

Kustom_Bart
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Registered: October 2010
Location: Greenville, MichiGUN

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For the piggy back models it was a lamp cord type of cable with straight switch craft ends. for the PA's, I don't remember. If I recall correctly (ask Pleat as he would know for sure) they were a round cable like the AC power cable with the same type of lines on it with straight switch craft ends.

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Re: Kustom speaker cables [message #17246 is a reply to message #17245]

Fri, 29 June 2012 14:39

RobbieNuke
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Registered: October 2006
Location: Baltimore

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Were the Switchcraft plugs molded or soldered on? If soldered, was it the metal or plastic backshell? Funny, did Kustom have a separate accessory catalog (which I've never seen) or a dealer price sheet that had accessories listed? One would think that as popular as they were they would have had branded accessories like straps, cables, etc... Hell, they had Nauga's for cryin' out loud!

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Re: Kustom speaker cables [message #17247 is a reply to message #17246]

Fri, 29 June 2012 18:49

pleat
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Registered: June 2004
Location: Belding, Mi

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Kustom used black lamp cord wire with molded right angle switch craft plugs at each end. PA Cables were 25' long and the speaker cords for the amps were 4' long. All the 3x15 guitar and bass cabs came with one 25' cable. Both the 4' and the 25' cables were the same gauge.

The first Frankie PA that my band bought, used the grey rounded cable, just like the power cords, and the Cable was 25' each direction Y and used the metal switchcraft 225 plugs since the Frankies only have a single output jack on the back of the amp.

Kustom used the same 4' right angle molded speaker cord through the hard tolex series amps as well.
I've never see a original kustom cable with straight plugs, not to say that some amps might have came with them, but it would have been a dealer substitute.

pleat

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Re: Kustom speaker cables [message #17250 is a reply to message #17247]

Sat, 30 June 2012 14:54

C4ster
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Registered: June 2001
Location: Mukwonago, WI (Milwaukee...

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When I bought my first Kustom in 1969, a 4x12 K200B5 PA rig, the speaker cables were the flat black lamp cord style with molded straight plugs. I also think the foot switch had the same black lamp cord with a straight plug.
Conrad

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Re: Kustom speaker cables [message #17275 is a reply to message #17244]

Mon, 09 July 2012 21:22

bertaire
Messages: 34
Registered: April 2012
Location: burbank california

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pleat, I have a yaxley cord, cloth and wire shielded, oversized 1/4 inch jacks with the wires ( screw set ) It's over 10 feet long with wooden spacer like pieces that aren't attached and just slide back and forth on the cable. Purchased on ebay and claimed that Yaxley was the preferred or only supplier of cables for the Kustom amps. Probably a load of BS but I bought it anyway because I have the "fever" if you know what I mean.Do you know of this Yaxley and his relationship with Vintage Kustom amps?

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Re: Kustom speaker cables [message #17276 is a reply to message #17275]

Tue, 10 July 2012 08:26

pleat
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Registered: June 2004
Location: Belding, Mi

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I've never heard of that brand of cable, and in all the years I sold kustom amps, I never unpacked a kustom cabinet that didn't have the black lamp cord with the molded right angle switchcraft plugs. From your discription, your cable sounds more like a shielded audio cbable, and not a speaker cable. Audio cables have different masses of wire between hot and ground. Speaker cables have equal masses of wire between hot and ground. Using a shielded audio guitar cable as a speaker cable the center conductor is much smaller in diameter, and in high power applications, the wire can heat up and melt through the insullation and short to the shield wire, and may cause a failure in the amp.
We all have been bitten by the kustom bug, and have the fever, but common sense still has to play into cables. Using a 10 or 12 gauge monster cable with gold contacts, is a bit overkill, when you actually see the wire going from the circuit board to the speaker jack inside a kustom amp, or the size of the wires kustom used inside the speaker cabinet.

I googled the Yaxley and didn't find the company.

pleat

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Re: Kustom speaker cables [message #17277 is a reply to message #17244]

Tue, 10 July 2012 15:19

bertaire
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Registered: April 2012
Location: burbank california

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I'm sorry I wasn't clear. I know that's a guitar cable I just was wondering if you had ever heard of that person or company. I have taken a couple of pics and will try to post them. The plug is 3 " long and bigger in dia. then standard. The wires both (hot and ground) are held in by screws, no soldering.
Would Kustom sub out chords for their amps or contract with an outside manufacturer? It was only 15.00 so I'm not harmed financially it 's just a very curious thing.
Thanks again for your time and knowledge.

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