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anybody have a 1x15"+ 2x10" tuck and roll cabinet w/jbl's? [message #18043]

Sun, 13 January 2013 22:08

jblguy
Messages: 7
Registered: January 2013
Location: california

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i have 2 of these from a band called creedence clearwater. excellent cond. w/ road cases.
the 15's are d130's and the 10's are d110's stamped "K" with a metal stamp. they have a large white creedence stencil on back.
any info on this model???

Please disregard pics of the other cabinet and tag

http://s1272.beta.photobucket.com/user/jblguy1/media/1-13-13 037_zps95635e12.jpg.html?sort=3&o=1

http://s1272.beta.photobucket.com/user/jblguy1/media/1-13-13 038_zpsdd8ee0e9.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0

http://s1272.beta.photobucket.com/user/jblguy1/media/1-13-13 036_zps0e2f6ff9.jpg.html?sort=3&o=2

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Sun, 13 January 2013 23:16

Kustom_Bart
Messages: 601
Registered: October 2010
Location: Greenville, MichiGUN

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John Fogerty still has his original amp. I have seen a lot of people try to fake these and ask big $$$ for them.

[Updated on: Sun, 13 January 2013 23:18]

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Mon, 14 January 2013 00:12

jblguy
Messages: 7
Registered: January 2013
Location: california

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These were purchased at a creedence auction in concord ca. i assure you they are authentic. that aside i'm really looking for anyone who has seen this model before. i don't see much on the web.
and i wouldn't think of selling.

I added some pics. there are no model numbers just serial numbers.

[Updated on: Mon, 14 January 2013 00:43]

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Mon, 14 January 2013 00:53

Kustom_Bart
Messages: 601
Registered: October 2010
Location: Greenville, MichiGUN

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It is a model that plenty of the collectors on here do or have owned. The JBL's would be the D series and have the Kustom paint stamp on them to be stock.

Pleat can tell you more about them or if they even came with JBL's as an option.

The Creedance stencil means nothing without documentation and signatures from John Fogerty, pics, etc. Not saying they didn't come from where you are saying, but they aren't worth a penny more then any other black cabinet without a certificate of authenticity by a respectable company. There are to many fakes out there.

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Mon, 14 January 2013 01:05

jblguy
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Registered: January 2013
Location: california

Junior Member

Hi, once again i have no intention of selling them. i've had them for 20 years! the only reason i bought them was for the drivers. I paid $225 for the pair. i was going to scrap the kustom cabs (I'm not a creedence fan) but they looked and sounded too good. I just want to know What is the model number and the year they were made? just a little info.

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Mon, 14 January 2013 07:38

pleat
Messages: 1452
Registered: June 2004
Location: Belding, Mi

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Your cab model numbers are 2L+1L and can be found on this website. 1970 to 1971 before the slant metal face amps came out in summer of 71. Click on Literature tab at left. Click on 100/200/400 tab. It will show the color catalogs. At the bottom of that page, click on Kolor Katalog Supplemental tab and it will be shown on the third page showing the black cabinets. 4th. cab from left. There is a type on the description of the amp, it states 400 watts. The cab picture does not have JBL's, but the model number for that cab shows it has JBL's.

Are both the 15" and the 10" speakers have the K stamped in JBL tag, or just on the 10" JBL's? That is the only thing that I find odd. Kustom was using a Kustom logo paint stamp on all their speakers starting sometime in late 68. Your cabs from the 70's era should all have the logo paint stamp.

Since CCR was still playing. The cabs could have been added for use in their tours. I'm not an expert on CCR and I do remember a couple of years ago a black K200A-4 with the JBL 2x15 cab was on Ebay along with a K150-7SC that all had the CCR Stencil on the amps.

pleat

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Mon, 14 January 2013 10:07

Kustom_Bart
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Registered: October 2010
Location: Greenville, MichiGUN

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I got ya, for sure the drivers are worth far more than that! Like Pleat said they should have the paint stamp that normally went on one of the basket legs or I have 2 JBL D140's that have it stamped on the back of the magenet (don't see that very often). The only exception to the paint stamp rule that I know of are Altec's see the pic below to see how those were done.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c176/bketner/Music%20Equipment/siren2.jpg

Here is one of my Kustom D130's but I don't have a pic of the paint mark. You can tell it is from an earlier cab because it the insulation is still black. Later they got cheap and just used plain old yellow and then they used nothing at all. I have a pile of good vintage Altec 418's and a pair of 421's that I reconed, along with JBL's all 15" that I keep on hand just in case I get something that I want to install JBL's in or Altecs. I run the Altec speakers in my PA.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c176/bketner/Music%20Equipment/JBLD130F5_zpsae798b24.jpg

[Updated on: Mon, 14 January 2013 18:28]

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Mon, 14 January 2013 10:44

jblguy
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Registered: January 2013
Location: california

Junior Member

Hi.

Yes, all drivers have the same stamp. Thanks for the info. i've never seen another pair. it's weird how the 10's are vented through the back of the cabinet.

[Updated on: Mon, 14 January 2013 10:52]

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Mon, 14 January 2013 11:08

Kustom_Bart
Messages: 601
Registered: October 2010
Location: Greenville, MichiGUN

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Correct, a 4 x 10 cab is the sam way and is the same cabinet except there are 2 x 10" drivers in the bottom and they vent out the port tubes and the top 2 vent out the back.

Like this one, The pics below are property of Don Thompson and of his 4 x 10 amp.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c176/bketner/Music%20Equipment/410front_zps603f6326.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c176/bketner/Music%20Equipment/410back_zps28da0f78.jpg

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Mon, 14 January 2013 17:25

pleat
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Registered: June 2004
Location: Belding, Mi

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The cabs pictured are the small port tube cabs that would be the 1970/1971 era. Kustom did offer a 4x10 JBL cabinet in 1978/68 that was a sealed cab in the back and used the larger Aluminum 4" ports. The cab can be seen in the 67/68 catalog found on the literature section of this site. One correction, the early Frankie cabs used the yellow insullatin, then the black and finally in the slant face era amps they were skimping on the insullation and finally were shipping cabs without any insullation.
pleat

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Mon, 14 January 2013 18:38

sunnhead
Messages: 221
Registered: June 2010
Location: Minnesota

Senior Member

I have two of the 1x15 + 2x10 cabinets, with Jensen's. They are good cabinets, I suggest to keep them stock if you ever feel the need to take the speakers, please sell the cab to one of us Smile

I have the 4x10 cab with closed back with cts speakers.. my first kustom I ever bought... great sounding cabinet.

-Sunnhead

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Mon, 14 January 2013 22:33

sunnhead
Messages: 221
Registered: June 2010
Location: Minnesota

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I guess thinking about it really CCR could of had a few amps and cabinets that were behind the scenes that they never used on stage or at least that were photographed. I saw a photo of them that had a Kustom 100 2x12 rig in the background on their stage. And for rehearsals or backstage warm ups they could have had such rigs. I know Bart is right about John at least still has his A-4 2x15 rig, although if you look at video clips he either had the JBL's reconed with out the aluminum dust caps or just had them replaced with something different, either way he could have just kept his main rig and liquidated the rest of the heard, never the less without the COA, its a nice JBL cabinet with some not so nice Stenciling.

-Sunnhead

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Tue, 15 January 2013 02:35

jblguy
Messages: 7
Registered: January 2013
Location: california

Junior Member

Hi, Well since it's not being sold it doesn't matter. To me there only worth what a pair of kustom cabs full of jbl's and the associated flight cases (ccr owned or not)are worth.If some one was trying to pull a scam, i believe they wouldn't spend all this money on jbl loaded gear and flight cases and stencil the cabs and the cases and sell 'em for 200 bucks! (Probably not too much profit). I live in the sf bay area and a lot of gear owned by "famous people" flows through here. I also have a fender bassman
i bought from neil schon, and a pair of adats from Isaac Hayes, to name a couple. I bought them 'cause i wanted them and the price was right. I didn't need a "COA", i shook their hands and bought their gear. I bought it to use it!. It's interesting to fun to talk about, but that's it! I feel that anyone that buys gear and gets "COA" just because someone "famous" owned it at one time is a "Cork Sniffing collector"....They're paying the extra money for a "piece of paper" Buying and selling paper. This was the first time i've ever took a pic. or even told anyone on the web of these ccr cabs. and i've had them for over 20 years! I joined just because i just got some big pa cabs for sale on here and i thought this site was cool. brought back that old kustom feelings. I'm in my 50's and a grandfather.
and a rock/jazz/pop guitarist for 45 years. What a welcome. A lot of negative comments about COA's and fakes. instead of addressing the question and just having fun. Jeepers!!!
P.S. Thanks for the info.

[Updated on: Tue, 15 January 2013 02:39]

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Tue, 15 January 2013 02:49

sunnhead
Messages: 221
Registered: June 2010
Location: Minnesota

Senior Member

i was stating that the cabinets were good cabinets, and the ccr factor is hard to prove if you were going for that. i think you scored with those cabs really, andi wish i could get my hands on them for that price! i understand about buying gear, but some stuff is too iconic.. jimi's woodstock fender, Stevie ray vaughn's F first Fender.. and so on... you have great gear...keep on collecting.

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Tue, 15 January 2013 12:36

chicagobill
Messages: 2005
Registered: April 2003

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jblguy wrote on Tue, 15 January 2013 01:35

What a welcome. A lot of negative comments about COA's and fakes. instead of addressing the question and just having fun. Jeepers!!!
P.S. Thanks for the info.

Oh yeah, Welcome to the place.

I don't think that any comments were meant to be personal, it's just that there are a lot of people that come here because they have a Kustom amp that they found or were given. They want to sell it and don't want to get taken, so they come here and ask what things are worth and where the best place to sell and which model is better, etc. I try and stay out of those discussions because they can get ugly.

If you had given us a little back story about the cabs, I doubt that anyone would have gotten into all of the COA stuff. We all would have been envious of your luck and good fortune. Leave the COA problems to your heirs, just enjoy the cabs and keep on playing.

Oh, and by the way did I mention that those particular cabinets are a fire hazard and that you should immediately ship them to me, as I know how to properly dispose of them? Rolling Eyes

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