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K200-B6? [message #22770]

Sun, 19 April 2015 22:28

rodak
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Registered: October 2001
Location: Georgia

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Thought I was familiar with all the basic model designations, but what the heck is this?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/281662951676

A K200-B6? Looks like a B1 to me. And is that a 2x10/1x15 cab? Cool! If the story is correct, this looks like a great find for someone (although the price seems a bit steep, even for something this unusual and in apparently mint condition).

www.combo-organ.com

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Re: K200-B6? [message #22771 is a reply to message #22770]

Sun, 19 April 2015 23:11

chicagobill
Messages: 2005
Registered: April 2003

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It is a fairly odd and rare amp. The head is a model 6 with a Selectone preamp on the left side. The speaker cab is also odd with the dual 10's and the fact that they are all JBL's.

I've only seen one model 6 amp before, but I've seen a few of the cabinets before. I guess the price is what it is.

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Re: K200-B6? [message #22774 is a reply to message #22771]

Mon, 20 April 2015 13:00

rodak
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Registered: October 2001
Location: Georgia

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Thanks, Bill. I thought that one knob said "Selectone", but it was a bit fuzzy. So what is that, a multiposition switch that cuts in some different capacitors or something?

I take it this never made it into any of the literature.

Cool looking amp. Wouldn't mind owning it, but way to rich for my blood.

www.combo-organ.com

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Re: K200-B6? [message #22775 is a reply to message #22770]

Mon, 20 April 2015 17:12

chicagobill
Messages: 2005
Registered: April 2003

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Exactly, the Selectone switch was a three position switch that changed the frequencies that the bass and treble controls worked at.

Pleat would have a better idea, but I think that the model 6 was issued late in the run of the plexi front amps and so there weren't that many made and there wasn't a lot of info about them.

The Selectone concept was continued in the K150/K250 metal front amps.

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Re: K200-B6? [message #22776 is a reply to message #22775]

Mon, 20 April 2015 19:17

pleat
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Registered: June 2004
Location: Belding, Mi

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The K200B-6 model and the cabinet model is 2L+1L is in the 1970 blue price list. Originally the amp and cabinet retailed for 870.00. The dash 6 model was only offered as a basic two channel amp.
pleat

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Re: K200-B6? [message #22784 is a reply to message #22770]

Wed, 22 April 2015 08:14

stevem
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Registered: June 2004
Location: NY

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Has anybody else noticed that this cabinets baffle board is bogus! Those are K100 port tubes in that cabinet k200 cabinet!

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Re: K200-B6? [message #22786 is a reply to message #22770]

Wed, 22 April 2015 13:09

Iowa Boy
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Registered: June 2014

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Look at the baffle board itself......it doesn't look right either. The texture, paint whatever was used doesn't look right. I too noticed that the ports were smaller but since I have never seen a cabinet like this one thought that was how they were made. Sounds like maybe someone is pulling a fast one to jack up the price. ????????? Regardless, they will never get even half of what they are asking for it.....unless someone with more money then sense buys it. If so, hope they contact me. I have a Corvette and some other junk laying around that I will ask a ridicules price for and sell it to them.

[Updated on: Wed, 22 April 2015 13:14]

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Re: K200-B6? [message #22787 is a reply to message #22770]

Wed, 22 April 2015 13:16

chicagobill
Messages: 2005
Registered: April 2003

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Well, that's the thing about old amps and about stories on eBay. Every time you buy a used amp, you have to look at it to see what is original and what has been changed.

I'm no expert about these cabinets, but the black frame JBL's didn't seem right. I think that they are newer than the cabinet.

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Re: K200-B6? [message #22789 is a reply to message #22787]

Wed, 22 April 2015 14:48

pleat
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Registered: June 2004
Location: Belding, Mi

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If you go to the literature section and click on the 100/200/400 tab, and then click on Kolor Katalog Suppliments page it will show the K200B-6 head and all the odd cabinets, and it does have the smaller port tubes. I think it's the flash that makes it appear to a bogus baffle board. I have a photo of the front of the cabinet that wasn't on the eBay listing and it shows the 1/4" spacer behind the port tubes and kustom logo. I questioned the black frame JBL 10" speakers but from what I can research, the K110 F speakers were black frames. I think it's the real deal, but still out of my price range.
pleat

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Re: K200-B6? [message #22796 is a reply to message #22789]

Fri, 24 April 2015 04:18

Kustom_Bart
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Registered: October 2010
Location: Greenville, MichiGUN

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I agree Don, i haven't ever seen them in any other color than black either. If it were a 15" then you know they are supposed to be gray.

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Re: K200-B6? [message #22798 is a reply to message #22789]

Fri, 24 April 2015 10:29

rodak
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Registered: October 2001
Location: Georgia

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Hey, thanks, Don! I had never noticed that Supplement page.
Looks like the real deal to me. Still, $1,800 seems pretty steep. Maybe half that would be a reasonable starting point.

www.combo-organ.com

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Re: K200-B6? [message #22799 is a reply to message #22798]

Fri, 24 April 2015 11:38

Iowa Boy
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Registered: June 2014

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I never saw that page as well and I have to agree it does look like the real deal. I'm amazed that there is no rust of any kind on the screws or the casters from what is shown. The insulation also looks like brand new. If this is for real, they must have stored it in a vacuumed bag. My question is just how good are the speakers since they probably never got broke in and have set for all these years? I wonder just how pliable they are now.

Price is still out of line and half would be much more reasonable so guess we will be seeing this listed for quite awhile.

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Re: K200-B6? [message #22801 is a reply to message #22799]

Fri, 24 April 2015 18:16

Kustom_Bart
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Registered: October 2010
Location: Greenville, MichiGUN

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The speakers either work or they don't. I am using D130's and D140's that haven't been re-coned since new as well as Altc 418's and 421's I would imagine 98% of my speakers are original. Just don't make their first blast a super loud one, push on them carefully to ensure the voice coil is free and not rubbing and you should be good to go.

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Re: K200-B6? [message #22803 is a reply to message #22770]

Sat, 25 April 2015 10:08

sunnhead
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Registered: June 2010
Location: Minnesota

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That rig is original, I own the same one myself. The JBL'S Are more then likely the originals. http://www.ebay.com/itm/JBL-D-110-F-D110F-set-of-4-speakers- all-need-recone-/271806401958?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash =item3f48ec8da6 Those have black frame's. Its a great amp, sounds really good. His price is not reachable, I would say as good as it looks in black $600 tops.

-S

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