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Kasion PA or bass amp good for guitar [message #4123] Tue, 27 April 2004 09:57 Go to next message
Anonymous
Would either the Kasino Club PA head (100 watts -w- reverb right?) or the Kustom II bass head (2 channel with bright; no reverb) be a good amp for guitar?? THX!!
Re: Kasion PA or bass amp good for guitar [message #4143 is a reply to message #4123] Fri, 30 April 2004 07:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
stevem is currently offline  stevem
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The bass head would have a input impeadence set to work with pickups, you stand to much of a chance of clipping the preamp in the PA head with the hotter level out of a pickup compaired to a mic.
Re: Kasion PA or bass amp good for guitar [message #4144 is a reply to message #4143] Fri, 30 April 2004 15:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jimi
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Can you change impedance on a 67" 745 PA head to handle the hotter signal of pickups? What is clipping the preamp? Overdriving it? What damage can that do? Mine sounds awesome with tone to die for but there is a little overdriven edge to it. Is that edge caused by clipping of the preamp?
Re: Kasion PA or bass amp good for guitar [message #4145 is a reply to message #4143] Fri, 30 April 2004 15:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bill
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Steve, I am curious how you came up with this. In my k200b model 2 and the 5 (pa), they use the same preamps (105), and power amp/regulator board (703). Not trying to be a smart aleck, just trying to learn more. As far as the KII, I just fixed one for a friend, and tried it on bass and guitar, and it had great high AND low end, seemed to work great on guitar and bass. I use a pa amp and the standard amp for both, and haven't noticed any difference. Steve may have some additional insight from the tech point of view, he's a good guy and always willing to help! Thrill Bill
Re: Kasion PA or bass amp good for guitar [message #4146 is a reply to message #4145] Fri, 30 April 2004 17:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
chicagobill
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Thrill Bill: I don't want to speak for Steven, but what he said is true of modern design equipment. You are correct that the Kustom 200 A and B series used the same pre-amp circuits, and the same boards in both PA and guitar amps. I don't know anything about the Kasino designs, but I'd guess that there is little difference between the guitar and PA pre-amp circuits in that line either. The Kustom engineering guys knew how to get the most out of their designs. Bill from Chicago
Re: Kasion PA..... -745PA preamp clipping [message #4147 is a reply to message #4146] Fri, 30 April 2004 18:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LesS is currently offline  LesS
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Hey jimi earl, Try playing with your guitar volume control on only 4 or 5. At 4 or 5 on the guitar, you are probably not overdriving the preamp, so you should be able to get a clean sound out of your amp. If it is still clipping it could be a problem somewhere else, maybe the output section. Also, the 745PA is referred to in the 1966 Ross catalog (on this website) as a “modified K200”. The catalog says “Total of 4 microphone inputs.” So they must have added some kind of mixing circuit on each channel so each channel could run 2 mics at a time. (see “Frankin cascade” posting of 4/4/04 for more info.) So apparently the preamp in the 745PA is different from the guitar preamp –so it is possible as Steve said that it was made for mic signals and could be distorted by the stronger output of guitar pickups. -Les S.
Re: Kasion PA..... -745PA preamp clipping [message #4155 is a reply to message #4147] Thu, 06 May 2004 21:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jimi
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Thanks for the responce. Can damage be inflicted from the hotter guitar signal going into the 745PA's inputs designed for mics? Earlier posts say theres no difference in preamps regarding PA and guitar amps. It sounds to me like they used the same design, at least in the early days, Jimi
Re: Kasino PA..... -745PA preamp clipping [message #4156 is a reply to message #4155] Fri, 07 May 2004 00:38 Go to previous message
Van
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I used to run 3 keyboards through my Kasino Concert PA with no troubles.
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