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bass 2-12 ? [message #19237] Mon, 26 August 2013 21:51 Go to next message
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Hi , This is the first time I ever posted anything. So this is my question what type of speakers did kustom use in the 2-12 bass cabs? Thanks,Jim
Re: bass 2-12 ? [message #19238 is a reply to message #19237] Mon, 26 August 2013 21:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The original 2x12 bass cab used CTS 16 ohm speakers wired in Parallel for a 8 ohm load. The latter 2x12 cab that was sold with the K150-1 bass head use CTS 8 ohm for a 4 ohm load. If your cab has black with silver threads in the grill cloth, it would for the slant metal face 150 series.
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Re: bass 2-12 ? [message #19243 is a reply to message #19238] Tue, 27 August 2013 10:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks man I just ordered it from FL. and don't know much about them. I know the 2-15 bass cabs but know much about the 2-12's.
and Thanks again,Jim
Re: bass 2-12 ? [message #19255 is a reply to message #19243] Fri, 30 August 2013 11:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi, I'm sure it is a kustom 2-12 cab but not sure when it was made,
and I think it has jensen speakers. The numbers on the speakers
are 12838G 575750, any ideas? Thanks,Jim
P.S. I bought this, The guy told me it was a bass cab.

[Updated on: Fri, 30 August 2013 12:00]

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Re: bass 2-12 ? [message #19259 is a reply to message #19255] Fri, 30 August 2013 13:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jim, The numbers you provided are not Jensens. Jensens would have a 220 for the manufacture code. CTS is 137, Altec's 391, and Emenience 67. From the numbers you provided the best I can come up with 575 being a Heppner brand. Some signs to date the cabinet, aluminum port tubes and name badge says Kustom by Ross would be the earliest models. 1968. If the cab has chrome plastic port tubes and badge is Kustom Electronics, would be mid 1969 to 1971 when the non tapered 2x12 cabs came out. These later cabinets would have silver threads in the grill cloth, chrome ports, and the name badge is a dull cast aluminum with the Kustom Logo offset to the left of center.
One problem with buying a cabinet that is 40+ years old, you never really know what might be inside the cabinet for speakers or even toys stuffed through the port holes.
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Re: bass 2-12 ? [message #19260 is a reply to message #19259] Fri, 30 August 2013 13:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Pleat, It is the slanted cab with the alum. port holes and on the back board has a little plate with jensen and under that it says pat.no.210,129 under that it says kustom and under that it says Chanute,kan. It has a ingraved #1396 or 8. Thanks,Jim
This is the link for the pics.
http://imgur.com/a/RzGEj#QRK55WE

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Re: bass 2-12 ? [message #19265 is a reply to message #19260] Fri, 30 August 2013 17:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Not speakers that came stock in a Kustom. If they were they would have a big white Kustom ink stamp on them. if they were Jensens, they would have a sticker on the magnet, that covered the entire magnet saying jensen and what model, etc. It is made for a K100 head only being 10 tuck and rolls wide, if it were 12 wide it would be for a K200 head. You need a k100-1 head and it will make a nice bass amp. They did make a nice single 15 cab that came with a single Altec that made a great bass cab as well. I have one with the k100-1 head in red.

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Re: bass 2-12 ? [message #19267 is a reply to message #19265] Fri, 30 August 2013 18:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Looked at the photo's and the speakers have a glare that I can't tell what they are. Even though the Jack plate says Jensen, thoses are not jensen speakers. As far as that cab making a good bass cab, you have to know what the speakers really are designed for. All of the matching K100-1 and K100-2 heads want a 8 ohm speaker box, so if the speakers you have are 4 ohm total load, I wouldn't recomend the K100 heads.
Most likely what you have are 8 ohm speakers wired in parallel for a 4 ohm total load which is perfect for the K250 head in the photo.
Kustom used all 16 ohm speakers regardless of brand in your cab.
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Re: bass 2-12 ? [message #19268 is a reply to message #19267] Fri, 30 August 2013 18:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Shocked Thanks,Pleat The speakers are Heppner with the dates 1967 50 th week. Could they have used these on kustom's in the 60's? They say these where in fenders, and that there just as good as the jensens?
Thanks,Jim

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Re: bass 2-12 ? [message #19270 is a reply to message #19268] Fri, 30 August 2013 20:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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They were not used in Kustoms. I would check the overall ohm rating of the cabinet and see what you have and go from there. Just test each speaker or if it is still wired to the outlet plug a cable into it and test it on the tip and sleeve for over all ohm load.

You could always remove the 2 x 12 baffle board and install and make a single 15 baffle board and install a JBL 8 ohm with a K100-1 head and you would have a killer lil bass amp.

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Re: bass 2-12 ? [message #19271 is a reply to message #19270] Fri, 30 August 2013 20:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi and thanks kustom Bart, I cheacked them together there 4.5 ohms, singles there 8 ohms. Thanks Jim
P.S. black is kool, but colors are waaaay coooooler.

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Re: bass 2-12 ? [message #19272 is a reply to message #19271] Sat, 31 August 2013 01:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The colors that I have are very nice and mint too. They are just not in that picture. I need a larger deck and a roadie to help me move the additions to my Kollection since that pic was taken...lol! Very Happy
Re: bass 2-12 ? [message #19288 is a reply to message #19237] Mon, 02 September 2013 22:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Here is some nice color for you,

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c176/bketner/Music%20Equipment/redK100-61_zps3b0f328e.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c176/bketner/Music%20Equipment/DSCN6860_zps773b4845.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c176/bketner/Music%20Equipment/CharcoalK50_zps74cb250c.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c176/bketner/Music%20Equipment/12_zps35cf74b5.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c176/bketner/Music%20Equipment/k50_2a.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c176/bketner/Music%20Equipment/RedK200A2.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c176/bketner/Music%20Equipment/kustombanner001.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c176/bketner/Music%20Equipment/redandblue.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c176/bketner/Music%20Equipment/Red_K50.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c176/bketner/Music%20Equipment/k200b2_1.jpg
Re: bass 2-12 ? [message #19291 is a reply to message #19237] Tue, 03 September 2013 06:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That 2-12 cab also needs to get the insulation replaced around its inside.
Re: bass 2-12 ? [message #19295 is a reply to message #19288] Tue, 03 September 2013 12:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Shocked Bart, those are some killer amps!!!!! I'm just starting, but damn they sound great!!!,Jim
Re: bass 2-12 ? [message #19296 is a reply to message #19291] Tue, 03 September 2013 12:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Stevem, Yes I know but not sure what to put back in there any ideas? Thanks,Jim
Re: bass 2-12 ? [message #19297 is a reply to message #19296] Tue, 03 September 2013 12:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks JIm,

Some don;t even have rust on the staples on the bottom or any marks on the glides on the bottom all but one posted have covers and pedals.
Re: bass 2-12 ? [message #19298 is a reply to message #19297] Tue, 03 September 2013 12:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bart,
they must be like brand new. I think there cool looking and they sound great.,Jim
Re: bass 2-12 ? [message #19299 is a reply to message #19298] Tue, 03 September 2013 19:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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They are all great sounding! I love it when you can take a K25 or K50 and play out and cut through the mix and only have to turn it up to 9 O'clock or less. It really makes people scratch their head....
Re: bass 2-12 ? [message #19300 is a reply to message #19237] Wed, 04 September 2013 06:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Regular old fiberglass insulation spray painted black like you see the rements of on the cross brace.
Alot of times some of the wood screw holes are stripped out, if you have that problem just place one or two wood tooth picks broken off at the right lenght into the hole and the screw will than hold fine.

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Re: bass 2-12 ? [message #19304 is a reply to message #19300] Wed, 04 September 2013 17:59 Go to previous message
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Thanks Guys, for all the info.Thanks,Jim
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