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boost pedal [message #22610]

Sat, 07 March 2015 11:20

Iowa Boy
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Ebay has a Kustom boost pedal listed but doesn't have the logo on the pedal like literature page shows. Is this the one for the K-250 4 or is it for the Kustom organ?

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Re: boost pedal [message #22611 is a reply to message #22610]

Sat, 07 March 2015 11:53

stevem
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If it uses a XLR connector then I would have to say it's for the 250, also they used LEDs on them and as far as I know the organ did not?

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Re: boost pedal [message #22612 is a reply to message #22610]

Sat, 07 March 2015 13:11

Iowa Boy
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Well this one just has the standard 1/4 inch plug and no lights so guess its for organ than. Too bad since the starting bid so far is $49. There must not be too many of the pedals or the multi foot switch/lites around. Makes you wonder where they all disappeared too. Thanks for the info Stevem.

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Re: boost pedal [message #22613 is a reply to message #22610]

Sat, 07 March 2015 14:32

fieldflower
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The boost pedal for the 250 should be 1/4.
It's just the 4-way foot switch that's multi-pin, right? (Except on mine where it's 2 x 1/4 stereo outputs. I guess it's a mod..)

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Re: boost pedal [message #22614 is a reply to message #22610]

Sat, 07 March 2015 14:53

Iowa Boy
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Okay....where's Pleat? He probably knows for sure which pedal this is. I would like to know for future references......also is it possible to "make" the footswitches for this amp since they don't seem to be around?

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Re: boost pedal [message #22615 is a reply to message #22610]

Sat, 07 March 2015 15:13

slk854
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I would think out of all the people here someone has to have an original one of these pedals, even the 4 gang one with the buttons. How could so many be lost/misplaced. I really wonder how many of the K-250-4 amps were built????? Anyone know that number????

Steve

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Re: boost pedal [message #22616 is a reply to message #22610]

Sat, 07 March 2015 15:50

Iowa Boy
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I'm sure that someone does........we will probably hear back from Pleat, Bart or maybe Bill if not someone else that has some additional information that we are asking. Just keep watching the postings.

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Re: boost pedal [message #22617 is a reply to message #22616]

Sat, 07 March 2015 23:31

pleat
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Kustom made two versions. The one on Ebay is the first generation wide pedal. The second version was a narrow width pedal. Within the two versions there was a spring loaded model that is for the Kasino and K250 amps, the non spring loaded was for the organ. All boost or volume pedals use the 1/4" stereo plug. I think I remember somewhere that the pot is a 10K and I think Linier taper.
49.00 is cheap, I have the wide spring loaded model with the Kustom logo on the face of the footpedal.
pleat

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Re: boost pedal [message #22618 is a reply to message #22617]

Sat, 07 March 2015 23:33

pleat
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My mistake the one on ebay is the narrow version and I'd bet it is for the Kasino Little Joe or Fever model.
pleat

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Re: boost pedal [message #22619 is a reply to message #22610]

Sun, 08 March 2015 07:58

fieldflower
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Should be pretty easy to make one if it's hard to find an original.
Here's a YT video of a Crybaby mod: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLRac7d2Tq8

If the original turn pot is a lot higher than the desired 10K it should be easy to just bridge input/output with a 10K resistor to make it go 0-10K (or am I thinking the wrong way?)

[Updated on: Sun, 08 March 2015 08:08]

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Re: boost pedal [message #22620 is a reply to message #22610]

Sun, 08 March 2015 11:17

stevem
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Well after checking the schematic for the fully loaded effects wise k250 the foot switch fiorged that must use a XLR connector as it needs 4 connection points and you are not getting that from a TRS type 1/4" Jack!
My metal face k150 has a XLR for the foot switch and it only has verb and trem/ vibe for effects.

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Re: boost pedal [message #22621 is a reply to message #22620]

Sun, 08 March 2015 11:38

fieldflower
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stevem wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 16:17

Well after checking the schematic for the fully loaded effects wise k250 the foot switch fiorged that must use a XLR connector as it needs 4 connection points and you are not getting that from a TRS type 1/4" Jack!
My metal face k150 has a XLR for the foot switch and it only has verb and trem/ vibe for effects.

Has there been several versions of this over the 250 life span?
The back of my 250-4 looks like this:

http://www.davesdeli.se/fieldflower/Kustom250_trem_verb_fuzz_boost.jpg

The solution is 2 TRS jacks, where T and R represent 1 effect each, and S is return.
The markings look very original...

I modded an existing 4-way footswitch from a local Swedish company that had 2 x TRS original.
The mod was simply to cut the LED's in the pedal, and then it worked like a charm.

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Re: boost pedal [message #22622 is a reply to message #22621]

Sun, 08 March 2015 12:42

pleat
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The early versions of the K250 used the 5 pin XLR lighted footswitch. Not sure exactly when they changed over to include 2 two button footswitches.
pleat

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Re: boost pedal [message #22623 is a reply to message #22622]

Sun, 08 March 2015 13:19

Iowa Boy
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Thanks guys.....knew that someone here would come up the answer......another point for Pleat. Once again, it sounds like Kustom wasn't consistent with making their equipment. XLR plug on some of the units, 1/4 jack on others. At least we now know this pedal was not made for the K-250 4 head according to Pleat.

Pleat, do you happen to know what the part number is on your boost pedal........would make it easier in the future if another pedal surfaces with the numbers on it.

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Re: boost pedal [message #22624 is a reply to message #22623]

Sun, 08 March 2015 13:40

pleat
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it's not a matter of kustom not being consistent, but more a matter of cutting costs where they could. The lighted 4 button footswitch was much more expensive to manufacture than a sinple two button footswitch they used on the K150-2 amp head and all the self contained guitar amps that have effects. The P/N on my boost pedal is 071-0009-00.
pleat

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Re: boost pedal [message #22625 is a reply to message #22624]

Sun, 08 March 2015 14:45

Iowa Boy
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We both know that the "CHEAP" way is not always the best way. But in our society it seems that quality has taken the back seat to cost. I'm from the old school......if it works, leave it alone; if your driven by money......don't cheapen it, raise the price. I'll always pay more for quality and consistency.

Thanks Pleat for the pedal numbers. Now everyone who owns a K250-4 will know what pedal to look for (just check to see what input jack is on the back of the amp before buying a pedal online).

Informative thread, hope it's helpful to others as well. Thanks to all!

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Re: boost pedal [message #22644 is a reply to message #22610]

Thu, 12 March 2015 08:42

slk854
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Only one bid on the pedal, and the winning one for the $49.50... Hard to believe since it was the same part number as pleat's. Would have thought many others would have jumped on it, or am I missing something here???

[Updated on: Thu, 12 March 2015 08:43]

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Re: boost pedal [message #22645 is a reply to message #22610]

Thu, 12 March 2015 11:43

Iowa Boy
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Pleat said that it was for the Kasino amps, so I'm guessing that maybe the numbers posted weren't the actual numbers of this pedal. He also said his was the wider pedal with the plate on it. Who knows........one of the draw back of buying on line. I trust his judgment so I didn't bid on it. Guessing that maybe someone got a real good deal. There'll be more in time, just keep watching.

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Re: boost pedal [message #22649 is a reply to message #22645]

Thu, 12 March 2015 12:28

chicagobill
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In years past, that pedal probably would have drawn a lot of bids and sold for three times that price. I don't own an amp that needs one, but if I did I would have been bidding.

The prices of a lot of vintage gear has dropped due to the changes in the economy and changes in music styles.

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Re: boost pedal [message #22650 is a reply to message #22610]

Thu, 12 March 2015 13:12

Iowa Boy
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Bill.........also the knowledge of the old vintage equipment. Most of the younger generation has no clue what vintage tuck and roll even is. Us old timers do and unfortunately even we don't know all the in's and out's and that is what makes you guys so valuable to the rest of us. That is what makes this web site so unique in preserving the knowledge of the good old Kustoms!

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